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(Free Jazz, Hardcore, Experimental, Industrial, Avant-Jazz, Noise) [CD, WEB] 16-17 - Дискография [6CD] 1994-2005, FLAC (tracks+.cue, tracks) lossless

(Free Jazz, Hardcore, Experimental, Industrial, Avant-Jazz, Noise) [CD, WEB] 16-17 - Дискография [6CD] 1994-2005, FLAC (tracks+.cue, tracks) lossless
Треклист:
16-17 / Дискография
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Жанр: Free Jazz, Hardcore, Experimental, Industrial, Avant-Jazz, Noise
Страна-производитель диска: France, Germany, UK
Год издания диска: 1994-2005
Издатель (лейбл): Pathological Records, Savage Land,
Digital Hardcore Recordings, Praxis
Страна: Basel, Switzerland
Аудио кодек: FLAC (*.flac)
Тип рипа: tracks+.cue, tracks
Битрейт аудио: lossless
Продолжительность: 04:07:00
Источник (релизер): Waffles.fm & What.cd, zen0, cthonist, chinasky, matusz
Наличие сканов в содержимом раздачи: да, 1

Swiss trio 16-17 (saxophonist Alex Buess, drummer Knut Remond and guitarist Markus Kneubuhler) played pummeling dissonant improvised industrial-jazz music that took inspiration from both Borbetomagus and Peter Brotzmann. Early Recordings (Savange Land, 2006) collects the cassette Hardkore and Buffbunker (Vision, 1984) and the LPs 16-17 (1986) and When All Else Fails (1989). Later they refined their sound on Gyatso (Pathological, 1994 - Savage Land, 2008), that also featured Kevin Martin on sampling machine, Human Distortion (DHR, 1998) and Mechanophobia (Praxis, 1999).
16-17's percussionist Daniel Buess launched a new project, Mir, with Mir (Savage Land, 2010).
 
1994 - Gyatso [PATH12]
Label: Pathological Records
Catalog#: PATH 12CD
Продолжительность: 01:03:03
Трэклист:
01. Attack - Impulse 6:31
02. Intravenous 5:26
03. Vertebrae
04. Fall Of The West 2:58
05. Black And Blue 6:23
06. Two Way Mirror 4:03
07. The Trawler 5:59
08. Motor 6:26
09. Flamethrower 2:51
10. Solo 3:28
11. White Out 3:08
12. The Trawler (Dredged Up Mix) 4:06
13. Motor (Alien Body Mix) 6:34

Notes
Recorded by Jon Wakelin Jasmine Cafe, Birmingham + Alex Buess & Manuel Liebeskind Wwolf 2.8.1. Studio, Basel.
Mixed at Wwolf 2.8.1 Studio, Basel.
Mastered by Tony Cousins c/o Metropolis.
Digital Layout - R.G.B. Design.
G.C.Green (G. Green) appears courtesy of Earache Records.
 
Лог создания рипа
EAC extraction logfile from 21. February 2007, 1:22 for CD
16-17 / Gyatso
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1994 - Gyatso [Remaster 2008 Savage Land SL06 ]
Label: Savage Land
Catalog#: SL06
Продолжительность: 01:02:19
Трэклист:
01 Attack - Impulse 6:31
02. Intravenous 5:26
03. Vertebrae
04. Fall Of The West 2:58
05. Black And Blue 6:23
06. Two Way Mirror 4:03
07. The Trawler 5:59
08. Motor 6:26
09. Flamethrower 2:51
10. Solo 3:28
11. White Out 3:08
12. The Trawler (Dredged Up Mix) 4:06
13. Motor (Alien Body Mix) 6:34
Notes
Recorded at Jasmine Cafe, Birmingham + Wwolf 2.8.1. Studio, Basel. Mixed at Wwolf 2.8.1. Studio, Basel.
This remastered re-issue has different artwork than the original 1994 release. Also includes liner notes by Jason Pettigrew, Two-Way Mirror, Cleveland, USA.
 
Лог создания рипа
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Лог проверки качества
AUDIOCHECKER v2.0 beta (build 457) - by Dester - opdester@freemail.hu
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-=== DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! ===-
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136633908
 
1998 - Human Distortion [Web]
Label: Digital Hardcore Recordings (DHR)
Catalog#: DHR MCD19
Продолжительность: 00:19:32
Трэклист:
1. Ataxia 4:13
2. Autogeddon 4:56
3. Digitized 4:31
4. Headlead 5:49
Credits
Artwork – Pathological Puppy, The
Featuring [Guests] – D.Cochrane*, K.Martin*
Mastered By – Simon Heyworth
Producer – Bug, The
Written-By – Buess*, Martin*
 
Лог проверки качества
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165837476
 
1999 - Mechanophobia [Web]
Label: Praxis
Catalog#: Praxis 31
Продолжительность: 00:15:12
Трэклист:
1. Mechanophobia 07:37
2. Pyrexia 07:34
Credits
Drums – Daniel Buess
Producer – Alex Buess, Roger Graf
Written-By – Alex Buess, Roger Graf
 
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240830372
 
2005 - Early Recordings [2CD Remastered Savage Land SL01-02]
Label: Savage Land
Catalog#: SL01-02
Продолжительность: 01:26:52
Трэклист:
The two-CD collection When All Else Fails gathers together three different recordings by Swiss trio 16\17: 1984's Hardcore & Buffbunker (disc one, tracks 8-12), 1987's 16\17 (disc one, tracks 1-7), and 1989's When All Else Fails (disc two). The sound and style of these recordings does not differ drastically from one to the next. The constant elements are Alex Buess' harsh, shrieking alto saxophone and Knut Remond's propulsive drumming. Markus Kneubühler plays guitar on most tracks, with his contributions ranging from repetitive, bass guitar-like lines on the Hardcore & Buffbunker tracks to a more abrasive or percussive "skronk" approach on many of the others. There are a few tracks that stand out as being different, including the sparse "Buffbunker IV," which is based on a slow, repeating bass guitar figure that cycles around and around (with slight variations) for seven-plus minutes, with Kneubühler adding eerie keyboard touches. Meanwhile, "Watch!" is a bit of free-floating improv with some industrial sound effects working their way into the mix behind Buess' saxophone. Buess also takes the microphone for some off-the-cuff vocals now and then. In general, though, the formula is pretty simple: maniacal drumming, noisy guitar, and paint-peeling saxophone steamrolling ahead for three to five minutes at a time -- then rinse and repeat. It's worth noting that much of this music could have been released on a noise-heavy label like, say, Load or Skin Graft in 2002 and sounded completely up to the minute. The fact that most of it was already in the can 15 or more years before then is pretty remarkable. In any case, this double-disc set is not for sensitive ears, but it offers a good sinus-clearing blast for those with hardier constitutions.
Credits
Bass – Knut Remond (tracks: 1-04)
Drums, Shaker [Electronic], Organ [Welson], Percussion [Electronic] – Knut Remond
Guitar [E-guitar], Electronics, Other [Guitar Controlled Electronics And Tapes] – Markus Kneubühler
Keyboards – Knut Remond (tracks: 1-02)
Photography [16-17] – Lisa Meier
Producer – 16-17 (tracks: 1-01 to 1-12), Alex Buess (tracks: 2-01 to 2-06), Markus Kneubühler (tracks: 2-01 to 2-06)
Remastered By – Weasel Walter
Saxophone, Alto Saxophone, Saxophone [Electronically Disguised], Vocals, Oboe, Bass [8-string], Electronics – Alex Buess
 
CD1 - 16-17, Hardkore & Buffbunker
Продолжительность: 00:50:28
Трэклист:
16-17
1-01. Kat 2:40
1-02. Speech 1:22
1-03. Direkt B. 3:28
1-04. Davul 4:15
Oboe, Shawm – Alison Gangler
1-05. Eva 4 3:27
1-06. Bomba Bomba 8:42
1-07. Watch! 7:40
Hardkore & Buffbunker
1-08. Hardkore I 2:59
1-09. Hardkore II 4:08
1-10. Buffbunker IV 7:04
1-11. Hardkore III 2:34
1-12. Hardkore IV 2:08
16-17
1-4 recorded at the >>Wolf<< Basel, November 1987.
5-7 recorded live (on a 4 track tape recorder) Zürich, September 1987.
Originally released on <a href="http://www.discogs.com/16-17-16-17/release/385667">vinyl</a>; manufactured & distributed by Rec Rec, Zürich. Produced 1987.
HARDKORE & BUFFBUNKER
8-12 recorded live at the Cinema >>Xenix<< in Zürich July 1984.
Originally released on cassette & distributed by >>Calypso Now<<, Biel. Produced 1984.
 
Logs
 
Лог создания рипа
Exact Audio Copy V1.0 beta 3 from 29. August 2011
EAC extraction logfile from 18. October 2011, 21:49
16-17 / 16-17/Hardkore & Buffbunker
Used drive  : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-T20N   Adapter: 2  ID: 0
Read mode               : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache      : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : No
Read offset correction                      : 667
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Appended to previous track
Used output format              : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 896 kBit/s
Quality                         : High
Add ID3 tag                     : No
Command line compressor         : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\Flac\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "ARTIST=%artist%" -T "TITLE=%title%" -T "ALBUM=%albumtitle%" -T "DATE=%year%" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%tracknr%" -T "GENRE=%genre%" -T "PERFORMER=%albuminterpret%" -T "COMPOSER=%composer%" %haslyrics%--tag-from-file=LYRICS="%lyricsfile%"%haslyrics% -T "ALBUMARTIST=%albumartist%" -T "DISCNUMBER=%cdnumber%" -T "TOTALDISCS=%totalcds%" -T "TOTALTRACKS=%numtracks%" -T "COMMENT=%comment%" %source% -o %dest%
TOC of the extracted CD
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        2  |  2:40.15 |  1:21.73 |     12015    |    18162
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       10  | 38:42.27 |  7:03.46 |    174177    |   205947
       11  | 45:45.73 |  2:34.28 |    205948    |   217525
       12  | 48:20.26 |  2:08.21 |    217526    |   227146
Track  1
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     Peak level 94.2 %
     Extraction speed 2.2 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 5881DC9D
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [4CF407FE]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
Track  2
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\02-Speech.wav
     Peak level 94.2 %
     Extraction speed 1.5 X
     Track quality 99.8 %
     Test CRC EAEECF94
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [C3244573]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
Track  3
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\03-Direkt B..wav
     Peak level 94.2 %
     Extraction speed 2.6 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 009EE530
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [81E17531]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
Track  4
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\04-Davul.wav
     Peak level 94.2 %
     Extraction speed 2.9 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC E7123878
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [4968DCC9]  (AR v1)
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Track  5
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\05-Eva.wav
     Peak level 94.2 %
     Extraction speed 3.0 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC EE469796
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [D77E19AB]  (AR v1)
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Track  6
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\06-Bomba Bomba.wav
     Peak level 94.2 %
     Extraction speed 3.6 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 8705FD00
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [01EF3FEE]  (AR v1)
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Track  7
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\07-Watch!.wav
     Peak level 94.2 %
     Extraction speed 4.0 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC DCAAFE45
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [2A66D2EA]  (AR v1)
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Track  8
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\08-Hardkore I.wav
     Pre-gap length  0:00:10.08
     Peak level 94.4 %
     Extraction speed 3.7 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC BAB26CB7
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [41037AEF]  (AR v1)
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Track  9
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\09-Hardkore II.wav
     Peak level 94.4 %
     Extraction speed 4.1 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC B311F6C1
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [305F9EB3]  (AR v1)
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Track 10
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\10-Buffbunker IV.wav
     Peak level 94.4 %
     Extraction speed 4.2 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC 3B8DA338
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [37999E01]  (AR v1)
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Track 11
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\11-Hardkore III.wav
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Track 12
     Filename E:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD1\12-Hardkore IV.wav
     Peak level 94.4 %
     Extraction speed 4.1 X
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All tracks accurately ripped
No errors occurred
End of status report
==== Log checksum 124F070CB896DF522EEAB695AB2EDC5ABA1A40D3C3BCB469C36012057F152F8F ====
 
Содержание индексной карты (.CUE)
REM GENRE Avantgarde
REM DATE 2005
REM DISCID 9F0BD40C
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.0b3"
PERFORMER "16-17"
TITLE "16-17/Hardkore & Buffbunker"
FILE "01-Kat.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Kat"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "02-Speech.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Speech"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "03-Direkt B..wav" WAVE
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "Direkt B."
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "04-Davul.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Davul"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "05-Eva.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Eva"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "06-Bomba Bomba.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Bomba Bomba"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "07-Watch!.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "Watch!"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "Hardkore I"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 00 07:29:35
FILE "08-Hardkore I.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "09-Hardkore II.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    TITLE "Hardkore II"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "10-Buffbunker IV.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    TITLE "Buffbunker IV"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "11-Hardkore III.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 11 AUDIO
    TITLE "Hardkore III"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "12-Hardkore IV.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 12 AUDIO
    TITLE "Hardkore IV"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
 
Лог проверки качества
AUDIOCHECKER v2.0 beta (build 457) - by Dester - opdester@freemail.hu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-=== DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! ===-
Path: ...\CD1
01 -=- 01-Kat.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
02 -=- 02-Speech.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
03 -=- 03-Direkt B..flac -=- CDDA (100%)
04 -=- 04-Davul.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
05 -=- 05-Eva.flac -=- CDDA (99%)
06 -=- 06-Bomba Bomba.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
07 -=- 07-Watch!.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
08 -=- 08-Hardkore I.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
09 -=- 09-Hardkore II.flac -=- CDDA (99%)
10 -=- 10-Buffbunker IV.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
11 -=- 11-Hardkore III.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
12 -=- 12-Hardkore IV.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
Summary 99,83% CDDA
107487044
 
CD2 - When All Else Fails...
Продолжительность: 00:36:24
Трэклист:
When All Else Fails...
2-01. Sneak Preview 4:30
2-02. Pedestrian Dub 7:17
2-03. Browbeaten Beat 6:59
2-04. Who Planned All This? 6:29
2-05. Clap Trap 5:06
2-06. Spit It Out! 6:03
WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS...
2, 4, 5, 6 recorded 9.12.1988 at the Restaurant Hirscheneck, Basel, on a 4-track recorder.
1, 3 recorded 31.3.1989 at the Kulturfabrik, Wetzikon, on a simple cassette tape deck.
The original sound of the recordings has only been altered as far as it was musically necessary. It was recorded directly from the live mixing desk, consequently certain instruments were omitted for accoustic reasons; these were added later.
Treated and mixed at the Wwolf 2.8.1. Studio, Basel.
Originally released on <a href="http://www.discogs.com/16-17-When-All-Else-Fails/release/372787">vinyl</a> by Vision and distributed by Rec Rec, Zürich.
 
Logs
 
Лог создания рипа
Exact Audio Copy V1.0 beta 3 from 29. August 2011
EAC extraction logfile from 18. October 2011, 22:23
16-17 / When All Else Fails...
Used drive  : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-T20N   Adapter: 2  ID: 0
Read mode               : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache      : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : No
Read offset correction                      : 667
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Appended to previous track
Used output format              : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 896 kBit/s
Quality                         : High
Add ID3 tag                     : No
Command line compressor         : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\Flac\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "ARTIST=%artist%" -T "TITLE=%title%" -T "ALBUM=%albumtitle%" -T "DATE=%year%" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%tracknr%" -T "GENRE=%genre%" -T "PERFORMER=%albuminterpret%" -T "COMPOSER=%composer%" %haslyrics%--tag-from-file=LYRICS="%lyricsfile%"%haslyrics% -T "ALBUMARTIST=%albumartist%" -T "DISCNUMBER=%cdnumber%" -T "TOTALDISCS=%totalcds%" -T "TOTALTRACKS=%numtracks%" -T "COMMENT=%comment%" %source% -o %dest%
TOC of the extracted CD
     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
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        2  |  4:29.71 |  7:16.61 |     20246    |    53006
        3  | 11:46.57 |  6:59.06 |     53007    |    84437
        4  | 18:45.63 |  6:28.49 |     84438    |   113586
        5  | 25:14.37 |  5:06.25 |    113587    |   136561
        6  | 30:20.62 |  6:03.14 |    136562    |   163800
Track  1
     Filename Z:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD2\01-Sneak Preview.wav
     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00
     Peak level 94.4 %
     Extraction speed 2.4 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 2B94DCEF
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [A9F44005]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
Track  2
     Filename Z:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD2\02-Pedestrian Dub.wav
     Pre-gap length  0:00:01.71
     Peak level 94.4 %
     Extraction speed 3.0 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 43AEBCF3
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [F6962ED6]  (AR v1)
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Track  3
     Filename Z:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD2\03-Browbeaten Beat.wav
     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.18
     Peak level 94.4 %
     Extraction speed 3.4 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 0EA62DF9
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [CDFEC691]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
Track  4
     Filename Z:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD2\04-Who Planned All This.wav
     Peak level 94.4 %
     Extraction speed 3.7 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 1466BBA6
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [252D65DA]  (AR v1)
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Track  5
     Filename Z:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD2\05-Clap Trap.wav
     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.25
     Peak level 94.8 %
     Extraction speed 3.8 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 39102F91
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [635B4C4C]  (AR v1)
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Track  6
     Filename Z:\mnt\sda5\Downloads\P2P\TORRENT3\!RIP\16-17\16-17-2005-Early Recordings\CD2\06-Spit It Out.wav
     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.62
     Peak level 94.4 %
     Extraction speed 3.8 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 61F825D7
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     Accurately ripped (confidence 1)  [592E84C4]  (AR v1)
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All tracks accurately ripped
No errors occurred
End of status report
==== Log checksum 59E5DE784CE076525562ACA16F33DE0A827AA36AEE2E811F963457F7487790B7 ====
 
Содержание индексной карты (.CUE)
REM GENRE Avantgarde
REM DATE 1989
REM DISCID 40088806
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.0b3"
PERFORMER "16-17"
TITLE "When All Else Fails..."
FILE "01-Sneak Preview.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Sneak Preview"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Pedestrian Dub"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 00 04:28:00
FILE "02-Pedestrian Dub.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "Browbeaten Beat"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 00 07:14:43
FILE "03-Browbeaten Beat.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "04-Who Planned All This.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Who Planned All This?"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Clap Trap"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 00 06:28:24
FILE "05-Clap Trap.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Spit It Out"
    PERFORMER "16-17"
    INDEX 00 05:03:38
FILE "06-Spit It Out.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
 
Лог проверки качества
AUDIOCHECKER v2.0 beta (build 457) - by Dester - opdester@freemail.hu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-=== DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! ===-
Path: ...\CD2
01 -=- 01-Sneak Preview.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
02 -=- 02-Pedestrian Dub.flac -=- CDDA (99%)
03 -=- 03-Browbeaten Beat.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
04 -=- 04-Who Planned All This.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
05 -=- 05-Clap Trap.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
06 -=- 06-Spit It Out.flac -=- CDDA (100%)
Summary 99,83% CDDA
211793188
+ 5CD = Дискография. Update torrent file, pls
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